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#0, Creating a Niche Search Engine
Posted by Kurt on Apr-17-04 at 11:33 PM
While FatBomb will return results for just about anything, depending on your settings, you'll probably get better results create a "niche" search engine (or 2).

Competing with the likes of Google, Yahoo and MSN may be out of our league. However, what about more targeted "niche" engines?

How many great country/western music or photoshop search engines have you come across?

There's really not much difference between a general FatBomb and a niche FatBomb, except the niche FatBomb:

- Has a country/western theme for the graphics.
- Has a c/w "theme" for the links.

Instead of links like "Computers...Business....Travel"...

Your niche engine will suggest using links subjects such as:
Johnny Cash...The Dixie Chicks...Tobey Keith

Of course, using the search box, your visitors can find practically anything, but your site's appearance and the links you present will create the "image" of what you FatBomb to "be about".

You can even take out your search box, and "force" surfers to use only the links you give, further enhancing the image of a "niche".

Also, by selecting very tarteged subjects, you can now create your own database of targeted links.

Create a FatBomb database of 100 "hand picked" links to enhance your results.

Create another FatBomb database using link exchanges with other relevant sites and include these links in your results and pages.

From my experiences, I think you'll find other webmasters more likely to link to search engines/directories, as they see to think of them as a "honor" and don't perceive them as a competitor to their own site.

With this strategy, not only will you be building content for your FatBomb, you'll also be building links, and links can mean direct traffic as well as increased SE rankings.

You can also use www.buyitbomb.com from Bo to add c/w themed products and merchandise to add more stuff and revenue streams.

People interested in country music are probably also interested in cowboy boots.

FatBomb gives you plenty of opportunities to create a wide variety of niche search engine/directories and is really only limited by your imagination (and research).



#1, RE: Creating a Niche Search Engine
Posted by Poker on Apr-18-04 at 09:37 AM
In response to message #0
To give a very basic example I have a "niche tailored" (albeit marketing is not very nichy) version of FatBomb on my site:

http://www.digital-sales.com/cgi-bin/fatbomb/fatbomb.cgi/

This is just a SMALL sample of what you can do. But it gives you an idea of what to do. After all that's what I am here for!


#2, RE: Creating a Niche Search Engine - static html
Posted by kelvin brown on Apr-18-04 at 05:48 PM
In response to message #1
What bomb to you recommend that I include with Fatbomb to provide both meta searches, and static pages?

I am having trouble trying to figure out the best product to use in conjunction with Fatbombs to make static spiderable pages.

I have profitbomb, powerbomb, cbbomb is that still being supported has it be superseded?

Kelvin


#3, RE: Creating a Niche Search Engine - static html
Posted by Kurt on Apr-18-04 at 11:11 PM
In response to message #2
Kelvin,

As far as making "html" pages, we'll only discuss using FatBomb for "page making" in the private forum.

Note to All:

Acceptance into the private forum isn't guaranteed with any purchase. I use my own "criteria" for offering invitations and may take away membership at any time.

I know you're going to ask, but there isn't a "way" to get into the private forum...

I will say who its NOT for, and that's thieves, jerks and competitors.


#4, RE: Creating a Niche Search Engine - static html
Posted by expat on May-09-04 at 03:28 AM
In response to message #3
Hi Kurt and all,

Thanks so much for the FatBomb script. I downloaded it and started playing with it yesterday. I had one more domain related to my ebay auction business here in Japan, selling Japanese fan comics - doujinshi - and I thought making a niche portal was a super idea. I've given it a whirl here

DoujinshiLand.com.

I have it hosted it newwebhost with a bunch of other domains. I'm on a free two week trial. I suppose if I'm going to start linking this to my high traffic doujinshi sites, I should make sure this hosting will do. Any suggestions?

Next I want to make my own sites and pages, some affiliate sites, etc.. show up in the listings where I want, so I will start playing around with the databases.

This script was easy even for me to install and get running, especially considering I got a D- in C++ back in University!

I modified an old css template I had purchased a couple years ago and whipped up the header .jpg with an ebook cover generator.

My next batch of auctions end tomorrow - I'll be sending of the $35 soon after! What to do next?? Absolutely Wild.

Thanks,

James


#5, RE: Creating a Niche Search Engine - static html
Posted by kelvin brown on May-09-04 at 06:14 AM
In response to message #4
Hi James,

The site looks great.

I know you just started, but even I expected to see right away to purchase anime products.

This would be easy for you to add to the site.

kelvin


#6, RE: Creating a Niche Search Engine - static html
Posted by kelvin brown on May-09-04 at 06:05 PM
In response to message #5
James,

Since I made the comment about your site, I decided to put a site targeted to selling one product.

I have to test it, because I may lose sales by adding SF to it.

Then again i may earn money once the site is indexed. Who knows, if i visit a few gardening forums I may get a few links back.

kelvin


#7, RE: Creating a Niche Search Engine - static html
Posted by kelvin brown on May-09-04 at 06:05 PM
In response to message #5
Opps, I forgot the link,

http://weekendgarden.com/garden/garden.cgi/

kelvin


#8, RE: Creating a Niche Search Engine - static html
Posted by kelvin brown on May-10-04 at 06:29 PM
In response to message #7
I got some pretty good feed back on this site, so I went ahead and add another few pages. So now it they are all static pages, for a total of about 100 phrases and pages.

kelvin


#9, RE: Creating a Niche Search Engine - static html
Posted by bscrivener on May-11-04 at 05:20 PM
In response to message #8
All,

Let me say how much I love FatBomb. It is so powerful! Thanks Kurt for such an innovative product at such a great price

I am working on upgrading BuyItBomb with new features and one of them is integrating it more closely with FatBomb.

Here is a demo site that I have been playing around with. It combines the new BuyItBomb 2.0 "Bullet" engine and FatBomb into a cool product search engine.

All search results are created by BIB. In this example, there are 15 datafeeds that are searched simultaneously on a remote site. Pretty fast huh!

I'm working on the algorithm to rank the results better. Right now, everything is equal so you get a lot of results from the same merchant clustered together.

Check it out: http://datapheed.com/fatbomb1.02/

Bo


#10, RE: Creating a Niche Search Engine - static html
Posted by Kurt on May-11-04 at 11:48 PM
In response to message #9
Bo,

That's really impressive, especially considering BiB's searching 15 databases at once.

With all the recent talk of "niche marketing", I hope people realize it's what we've been doing around here since day one. The combo of Bo's BiB and FatBomb are a powerful example...


#11, RE: Creating a Niche Search Engine - static html
Posted by kelvin brown on May-12-04 at 01:13 PM
In response to message #10
I tend to procrastinate a lot like most people. Sometimes moving from project to project. Only keeping 3 or 4 that I work on a lot, but 10 or more just hanging.

This is just to say if you use Fatbomb, you can quickly create niche searchengines and move on.

I created another this morning. That is 3 in less than a week. 2 are converted sales pages, that were not selling much anyway.

So, thanks Kurt, and all. I can do this every week, and if I can, so can you.

http://www.guitar123.com

http://weekendgarden.com

Kelvin


#12, RE: Creating a Niche Search Engine - Search feed results
Posted by kelvin brown on May-12-04 at 01:36 PM
In response to message #10
Fatbomb by default is setup to display 5 SF links by default.

Has anyone done anytesting to see if 5 is better than 10?

Do people get turned off if there are 2 many paid results?

Just wondering why the default is set to 5?

Kelvin


#13, RE: Creating a Niche Search Engine - Search feed results
Posted by Poker on May-12-04 at 02:18 PM
In response to message #12
Kelvin and all,

Not so much an answer to your topic (I have no data concerning that).

But you can also put iv a java pheed by Revenuepilot.com .

Chris


#14, RE: Creating a Niche Search Engine - Search feed results
Posted by Kurt on May-12-04 at 04:55 PM
In response to message #12

>Just wondering why the default is set to 5?
>

Kelvin,

The only reason SF is set to 5 is because it had to be set to "something".

I chose 5 because on www.lubz.com I didn't want any side tables so the page would be wide enough to allow for a full "preview".

This meant I needed to put SF links across the top, instead of the side. If the SF links were down a side, I'd usually try to have more.

I generally add SF links based on page design, more than marketing. Bascially, how many fit?

However, on www.lubz.com I think 3-5 SF links at the top, with 7-8 more (repeating some) at the bottom.

While "a lot" of PPC results may seem best, remember the bid ammounts between #1 and #20 can be very large.

It's always a trade off..A lot of lower priced links or a few higher priced links.

It's up to you...



#15, I'm an Idiot RE: Creating a Niche Search Engine - Search feed results
Posted by expat on May-15-04 at 02:57 PM
In response to message #14
I have a searchfeed account, but it took me forever to figure out how to get fatbomb to show my search feed results - but this is only because I'm an idiot.

Of course, they were showing under Kurt's ID first, but I wasn't even seeing those. I had turned off Java scripting in my browser and had forgotten all about it, so I wasn't seeing any sponsored results at all, and thought I'd messed things up.

I finally fired up my laptop - with normal browser settings - and figured out what was going on. After that, it was just a matter of changing the id in my defaut-results.html.

I feel like I'm on a treasure hunt. Being an idiot is great, because I end up creating my own "choose your own adventure" stories every day!

James
<http://www.degrees-online-guide.com> - let's see how this one does!


#16, RE: Niche Search Engine
Posted by totenmaske on May-19-04 at 00:24 AM
In response to message #15
...how is this for "niche".

GothSeek.com - the Gothic Search Engine

----------------------
Stanley aka Totenmaske

Affiliate-Blog.com
Cherry Bomb XML List


#17, RE: Niche Search Engine
Posted by Kurt on May-19-04 at 00:31 AM
In response to message #16
Stanley,

That's a great example of a "niche" search engine!


#18, RE: Niche Search Engine
Posted by warnet on May-19-04 at 05:04 AM
In response to message #16
Stanley,
Great example of a niche search engine. I performed a few searches
sites looks great

Thanks
Joseph Dietrick


#19, RE: Niche Search Engine
Posted by totenmaske on May-19-04 at 02:17 PM
In response to message #18
Thanks guys! Still a few things to clean up like the TOS and PRIVACY pages and then I'll add in some "gothic" merchants for good measure once I figure out how that part works. Maybe some calendars and body jewelry?

I know it's been said before but I'll say it again anyways. Kurt...FatBomb is awesome!

----------------------
Stanley aka Totenmaske

Affiliate-Blog.com
Cherry Bomb XML List


#20, RE: Niche Search Engine
Posted by Nathan on Jul-24-04 at 10:26 AM
In response to message #19
Does anyone purchase high PR domains and then
turn them into niche search engines. I have
about 10 domains with pr of 4 or better that
I have parked at www.afternic.com.

Going to make them into niche search engines.
Just wondered if anyone else is doing this.


Nathan


#21, RE: BuyItBomb.com
Posted by kelvin brown on Oct-15-04 at 10:59 AM
In response to message #0
I know bib bomb creates more content, but has anyone notice if they are getting income directly from the searched for products.

kelvin


#22, RE: BuyItBomb.com
Posted by Patrick_M on Apr-14-06 at 02:21 PM
In response to message #21
LAST EDITED ON Apr-14-06 AT 02:41 PM (PST)
 
Sorry Kurt,

I guess I'm having a hard time getting around here, very confusing
for me. I will just do more testing on my own and stop messing up the
forums here.

Thanks,
Patrick


#23, RE: BuyItBomb.com
Posted by Kurt on Apr-14-06 at 02:22 PM
In response to message #22
Patrick,

This is a Spiderbomb question. Yesterday I pointed out to you that you need to check the Official Threads in the MadBombers forum for where to post. Please do so and save us both some time and effort.