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Forum Name: Tuelz
Topic ID: 8
#0, Rebrander
Posted by Kurt on Aug-12-04 at 05:53 PM
LAST EDITED ON Feb-06-05 AT 06:02 AM (PST)
 
Directions and tips for using the Rebrander.

Tuelz Rebrander Webpage/More Info



You may only rebrand, give/sell these four core programs:
The Newz Tuel, FatSearch, Updatez, Moniterz.


First click the button in the Newz box. Here you may add hard coded (non-removable) and soft coded (removable) feeds.

There is a limitation: All hard-coded feeds go to the main category, all soft-coded feeds go to any other categories.

So you need to create a Newz Tuel category for soft-coded feeds
in the REBRANDER before you can soft-code them.

Now you may click in the Updatez box. Here you may add soft- and hard-coded pages for Updatez.

After you finished it, enter a directory name (for example "NASCAR") in the Rebrand box.

Tuelz will create a new folder called "NASCAR" in the same folder/directly Tuelz is in, with a branded copy of Tuelz.

Now close the current instance of Tuelz. Then go to your NASCAR directory and run tuelz.exe in the Niche Name directory.

Check the Updatez and Newz in it. You should see your
pages and pheeds there.

Also, check to make sure your SearchFeed and other stuff is working and rebranded.

Now, research and rebrand another niche, and repeat.


#2, Rebrander - Updatez
Posted by Kurt on Aug-12-04 at 06:43 PM
In response to message #1
LAST EDITED ON Oct-08-04 AT 09:04 PM (PST)
 
To rebrand Updatez:

You may rebrand up to 2 hard coded pages that will be permanently inserted into Updatez, but can't be removed by your Users.

Enter the URL of the pages you want to track, selct from the options and click "Add Page".

Note: Be careful about how often you want to check pages for updates. If you have a lot of Users, all banging away needlessly as someone's server, you're not doing anyone any good.

I suggest setting your time to no more than once every day, unless you both own the server and you have a very, very good reason to update your info more often.


#3, Rebrander - Customize Graphic
Posted by Kurt on Aug-12-04 at 06:44 PM
In response to message #2
LAST EDITED ON Sep-18-06 AT 12:39 PM (PST)
 
Rebrander - Customize Graphic

You may use either jpeg of giff.

Use the following dimensions for best results:

VERSION 1 ONLY
145 width
100 height

Version 2 ONLY
Download the blank banners here:

http://www.dombom.com/dcforum/User_files/450ef4d336c27dc5.zip

Then, upload your custom graphic to any website.

Next, take the URL of your uploaded graphic and paste it into the Tuelz rebrander.

For example, if you named your graphic hammer.jpg and uploaded it to the "root" (main) folder on your website, your URL will look like this:

h ttp://YourWebSite.com/hammer.jpg

If you don't want to mess with a graphic, we've included a generic one you can use. If somehow the path has been deleted, just paste this into the box to use the default graphic:
/tuelzbox/static/rebrand.jpg


We do recommend using your own graphic and hosting it on your own site. This allows you to change your graphic at any time, for any number of reasons.



#4, Rebrander - SearchFeed
Posted by Kurt on Aug-12-04 at 06:44 PM
In response to message #3
LAST EDITED ON Aug-12-04 AT 06:57 PM (PST)
 
Rebrander - SearchFeed

Tuelz has some original revenue streams.

By entering your SF ID, you can earn money for SF links appearing in the following places in Tuelz:

Fat Search Results - The top 8 results are displayed on each page of search results, meaning your highest paying links are diplayed on all SE results.

Newz Tuel
1. On category pages. If a user enters a new category, the name of that category will be the keywords used for the SF links displayed.

2. On the "More" or "pheed" page. The name of the pheed is used as the keywords for SF.

3. In the "Search Newz" results pages. The keywords used for the search determine the SF links.


Your End Users not only choose the content they want, they also target the ads to themselves.


#5, Rebrander - Tuelz Deveolper Code
Posted by Kurt on Aug-12-04 at 06:45 PM
In response to message #4
LAST EDITED ON Aug-12-04 AT 06:48 PM (PST)
 
Insert Tuelz Developer Code

This is a possible feature for the future, and isn't being used at the time of this post.

For now, enter your ClickBank nickname. If you don't have a ClickBank nickname, enter:
dombom


#6, RE: Rebrander - SearchFeed
Posted by Kurt on Aug-12-04 at 07:01 PM
In response to message #4
The SF rebranding uses the real pheed title as the keywords.

For example, a pheed from Daypop for "marketing" will create a keyword phrase of:

"daypop marketing". This isn't the optimal for making money and we're working on a fix. However, I do want to leave it for a while, as it makes for tracking via SF's affiliate panel a lot easier.


#8, RE: Rebrander - - Newz Tuel
Posted by Kurt on Oct-20-04 at 01:39 PM
In response to message #1
You can "hard code" up to two RSS pheeds. The reaosn this number is limited is because we feel it is important to maintain some sort of quality control on The Newz Tuel. If Tuelz got a reputation as being full of nothing but hard coded "sales pheeds", it will hurt the value of all.

To enter RSS pheeds, first you need to know how to find them. For more on research and the basics of RSS, please visit our RSS forum:
http://www.dombom.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=list&forum=DCForumID23&conf=DCConfID1

Soft coded (Your users can delete these pheeds) - you can enter as many soft coded pheeds and categories as you want.

Note that your "Main Page" category can NOT be deleted.

Your goal is to create themes of content that appeals to specific "niches" or markets.

You want them to follow their favorite subjects, so you can follow up, and "capture" their search engine revenue by getting the to use FatSearch.

It is suggested that you really "think" about your categories.

Remember, you are also rebranding your SearchFeed links. You'll want to steer your Users as much as possible, so that your most profitable keywords are being used.

If possible, you'll want to chose keywords for your Users and not let them chose their own.

Users can add categories. You need to "get inside their heads" and "soft code" the categories you think your Users for this niche will want.

Also, set up some generic categories, such as "sports", "health", etc, to get some good keywords on their pages as "categories".


#9, RE: Rebrander - - Newz Tuel
Posted by kelvin brown on Oct-20-04 at 01:00 PM
In response to message #8
I like limiting the upfront sales message. From a end user perspective, you want it to be not so obutrusive. They already know its a trade off that anything free is usually going to have some space for advertising or sales.

as for categories, you search for keywords, and poll your prospective users.

kelvin


#10, RE: Rebrander -Typo on marketing page
Posted by kelvin brown on Feb-05-05 at 10:52 AM
In response to message #9
mixing yourr Users'


Third paragraph down on page, http://tuelz.com/rebrander.html

kelvin


#11, RE: Rebrander -Typo on marketing page
Posted by Kurt on Feb-05-05 at 10:59 AM
In response to message #10
Thanks Kelvin,

I made the change, am working on all those pages now...


#12, RE: Rebrander - Interface
Posted by ezrydn on Mar-07-05 at 04:07 PM
In response to message #11
Kurt,

Is there a reason the rebrander will not interface with our tuelbox? Is it such a tool that it doesn't/can't/won't fit the tuelbox?

I got to wondering about that this evening.

John


#13, RE: Rebrander - Interface
Posted by Kurt on Mar-07-05 at 04:10 PM
In response to message #12
LAST EDITED ON Mar-07-05 AT 04:11 PM (PST)
 
John,

What does "interface" mean? Or it doens't fit?

I don't have a clue what you are talking about.



#14, RE: Rebrander - Interface
Posted by ezrydn on Mar-07-05 at 04:55 PM
In response to message #13
See, we all do it. Sorry,

I have all the mods in my ZZTuel folder. If I add the rebrander mod, it doesn't show in the tuelbox main page as an available tuel.

John


#15, RE: Rebrander - Interface
Posted by ezrydn on Mar-07-05 at 04:55 PM
In response to message #13
Kurt,

Disregard. I know I cycled Tuelz on and off several times before and the "tuelbox" page didn't show the rebrander. I just went through a soft "reset" on the PC and when I powered Tuelz up again, there it was.

So, evidently error on my part. All is well in TuelTown.

John


#16, RE: Rebrander - Interface
Posted by Kurt on Mar-07-05 at 04:58 PM
In response to message #15
>Kurt,
> I
>just went through a soft "reset" on the PC and when I
>powered Tuelz up again, there it was.


Or you could have just refreshed your browser...


#17, RE: Rebrander - Problem with SearchFeed username
Posted by numenor on Aug-25-05 at 05:51 PM
In response to message #16
Hi Kurt

I bought the Tuelz Rebrander a few weeks ago and everything seems to be working ok except that it doesn't seem to except my SearchFeed username. I think this is because it contains letters as well as numbers. I've asked if I can change my username but they won't let me, can you let me know what you suggest.
Very interesting products by the way.

Cheers
Brad


#18, RE: Rebrander - Problem with SearchFeed username
Posted by Kurt on Aug-25-05 at 05:53 PM
In response to message #17
LAST EDITED ON Aug-25-05 AT 06:07 PM (PST)
 
Brad,

Looks like SF threw us a curveball...We'll need Kirill to take care of this...Email me with your receipt and I'll put you in touch with Kirill.

lvha at aol.com

Thanks...


#19, RE: End user install error
Posted by kelvin brown on Mar-04-06 at 01:25 PM
In response to message #18
Hi Kurt,

I had an end user send me this message.

=========

I am running Firefox 1.5 and I am getting this error:

Tuelz

Software Error


Traceback (most recent call last):
File "C:\Xi\tuelz\core\webs.py", line 178, in do_GET
AttributeError: SessionServer instance has no attribute 'web_initial_handler'


#20, RE: End user install error
Posted by Kirill on Mar-04-06 at 01:28 PM
In response to message #19
>Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "C:\Xi\tuelz\core\webs.py", line 178, in do_GET
>AttributeError: SessionServer instance has no attribute
>'web_initial_handler'

Looks like the file 'tuelzbox.mod' is missing.

Kirill


#21, RE: End user install error
Posted by Kurt on Mar-04-06 at 05:46 PM
In response to message #20
PS... Kelvin,

IE is a stated requirement.


#22, RE: End user install error
Posted by kelvin brown on Mar-05-06 at 02:49 PM
In response to message #21
Hi Kurt,

I read that about IE. Just thought I would ask since Firefox was not popular when this came out.

And it works fine for me in Firefox.

Thanks

Kelvin


#23, RE: End user install error
Posted by Kurt on Mar-05-06 at 02:50 PM
In response to message #22
Kelvin,

Tuelz 2.0 should be moere firefox friendly, but not at all sure of release date???


#24, RE: UsingRebranded Newz with my zz
Posted by alloo on Aug-26-06 at 12:56 PM
In response to message #23
Can I rebrand several new times with different categories + use the rebranded-newz soft/hard feeds w/ zztuelz? On my original machine?

Eg. Rebrand Name 'Ford', categories 'Mustang', 'Thunderbird' 'Taurus' 'Jaguar' ...

When I replace that newz-mod with new rebranded newz-mod and run tuelz I still get the old version newz running with old categories and feeds; after stopping and starting the tuelz. So I can't use my zz tuelz with the new rebranded newz.

I suspect we might need a separate tuelz installation somewhere for each version of newz.


#25, RE: UsingRebranded Newz with my zz
Posted by Kurt on Aug-26-06 at 01:03 PM
In response to message #24
>Can I rebrand several new times with different categories
>+ use the rebranded-newz soft/hard feeds w/ zztuelz? On my
>original machine?
>
>Eg. Rebrand Name 'Ford', categories 'Mustang',
>'Thunderbird' 'Taurus' 'Jaguar' ...
>
>When I replace that newz-mod with new rebranded newz-mod
>and run tuelz I still get the old version newz running
>with old categories and feeds; after stopping and starting
>the tuelz. So I can't use my zz tuelz with the new rebranded
>newz.
>
>I suspect we might need a separate tuelz installation
>somewhere for each version of newz.

Don't replace Newz Tuel with the rebranded one.

Instead, after you've created a rebranded Tuel, exit the original Tuelz, then open tuelz.exe in the NEW folder created by the Rebrander.

Now you can move other Tuelz to this folder, however you will lose all previous settings and modifications to all other Tuelz, such as ZZ and Commentz projects, as all Tuelz use the same log.dat file to read preferences. This is necessary so if we give updates to Tuelz, your rebranding will remain after your Users upgrade.

Depending on how much work you've done with ZZ and Commentz projects, you can switch over....


#26, RE: UsingRebranded Newz with my zz
Posted by kelvin brown on Aug-26-06 at 02:46 PM
In response to message #25
Does this mean that we can use the original rebrander with the lastest version of Tuelz?

Or is this something still being worked on?

kelvin


#27, RE: UsingRebranded Newz with my zz
Posted by Kurt on Aug-26-06 at 02:49 PM
In response to message #26
>Does this mean that we can use the original rebrander with
>the lastest version of Tuelz?
>
>Or is this something still being worked on?


Kelvin,

I'm not quite sure what you mean, but I wouldn't suggest mixing 1.0 and 2.0, although you can always make a copy/backup of your Tuelz folder and give it a try.


#28, RE: UsingRebranded Newz with my zz
Posted by kelvin brown on Aug-26-06 at 07:00 PM
In response to message #27
Maybe i was just confused with the mention of rebranding in the previous post.

Though I missed something.

kelvin


#29, RE: updated tuelz rebrander
Posted by kelvin brown on Sep-02-06 at 05:37 AM
In response to message #28
Hi Kurt,

Are you still planning an upgrade to the Tuelz rebrander.

kelvin


#30, RE: updated tuelz rebrander
Posted by Kurt on Sep-03-06 at 05:38 AM
In response to message #29
>Hi Kurt,
>
>Are you still planning an upgrade to the Tuelz rebrander.
>
>kelvin

Hey Kelvin,

Yes, I hope to update the Rebrander, however I have a few projects I need to make priority first.


#31, RE: updated tuelz rebrander
Posted by kelvin brown on Sep-03-06 at 11:52 AM
In response to message #30
ok,

thanks


#32, RE: updated tuelz rebrander
Posted by ezrydn on Sep-04-06 at 11:52 AM
In response to message #30
Kelvin (or anyone else that missed it):

New Rebrander located at: http://www.tuelz.com/rebrander.html

John


#33, RE: updated tuelz rebrander
Posted by kelvin brown on Sep-04-06 at 03:08 PM
In response to message #32
You sent us to the purchase page.

I already have the original rebrander, I am looking for the upgrade.

If I am correct the 2.++ version will be a lower or no cost.

kelvin


#34, RE: updated tuelz rebrander
Posted by Kurt on Sep-04-06 at 03:11 PM
In response to message #33
>You sent us to the purchase page.
>
>I already have the original rebrander, I am looking for the
>upgrade.
>
>If I am correct the 2.++ version will be a lower or no cost.

Kelvin,

I misunderstood your original post about upgrading....I thought you already had 2.0?

You should have been able to download Rebrander 2.0 using Upgradez.

If it didn't work for you, email me and I'll send you Rebrander 2.0 that way.

The only changes for the Rebrander 2.0 are the layout...But that is probably a good reason to upgrade.

Sorry for the confusion...



#35, RE: updated tuelz rebrander
Posted by kelvin brown on Sep-04-06 at 07:47 PM
In response to message #34
Hi Kurt,

I finally got it.

If I remember, correctly, we were not able simply overwrite tuelz 1.0 with 2.0.

So we had to install 2.0 (as new), the new version did not have rebrand mod.

So, since u said it was ready, i went to an old install, grabbed the rebrand mod, copied it to the 2.0 directory, and then ran upgradez and it worked.

Thanks.

now, my problem is getting the first batch of users to reinstall.
If they have already started adding their own info, chances are they may not want to go through the trouble to upgrade.

Solution find new customers.

Kelvin


#36, RE: updated tuelz rebrander
Posted by Kurt on Sep-04-06 at 07:50 PM
In response to message #35
Kelvin,

For your users to update, they just need to follow the directions on the Upgradez thread.

One difference between 1.0 and 2.0 I forgot to mention, is 2.0 includes Upgradez so all users can upgrade their Tuelz.

When they upgrade, their own info, as well as any of your rebranding, should remain, as this info isn't stored in the exe itself.


#37, RE: updated tuelz rebrander
Posted by kelvin brown on Sep-04-06 at 11:14 PM
In response to message #36
All my users have an earlier 1. version.

So, if I am reading this correctly, they need to make a backup and download upgradez.zip

kelvin


#38, RE: updated tuelz rebrander
Posted by Kurt on Sep-04-06 at 11:16 PM
In response to message #37
>All my users have an earlier 1. version.
>
>So, if I am reading this correctly, they need to make a
>backup and download upgradez.zip
>

Kelvin,

I've posted the details on the How to Upgrade thread...




#39, RE: updated tuelz rebrander
Posted by alloo on Sep-16-06 at 02:41 PM
In response to message #38
pls send me an id as per: Insert DomBom/Tuelz Affilate ID:

can you have a pheeds site made like pheeds.com I think you mentioned for $40 or so to use in this rebrander tuelz?

Thanks!

Will


#40, RE: updated tuelz rebrander
Posted by Kurt on Sep-16-06 at 02:46 PM
In response to message #39
>pls send me an id as per: Insert DomBom/Tuelz Affilate ID:
>
>can you have a pheeds site made like pheeds.com I think you
>mentioned for $40 or so to use in this rebrander tuelz?
>

Will,

The Pheeds.com rebranding is no longer offered due to potential conflict with Google TOS. Sorry.

For the affiliate ID, just pick an ID, if I offer a Tuelz affiliate program, then you can send the ID to me, until then, there is no need. But still, enter an "affiliate ID" just in case...


#41, RE: Rebrander - Customize Graphic
Posted by alloo on Sep-18-06 at 12:32 PM
In response to message #3
>Rebrander - Customize Graphic

>Use the following dimensions for best results:
>
>145 width
>100 height

Seems like the 'hole' is one size, but 145 x 100 is another. I've put a 145 x 100 size image in there and it does not take up the entire space and weirdness happens at top and bottom of the graphic


#42, Banner Blanks for Version 2 RE: Rebrander - Customize Graphic
Posted by Kurt on Sep-18-06 at 12:35 PM
In response to message #41
>>Rebrander - Customize Graphic
>
>>Use the following dimensions for best results:
>>
>>145 width
>>100 height
>


Will,

These are the specs for Version 1. (my fault).

Use the blank banners I've attatched to this post, see below.



#43, RE: updated tuelz rebrander
Posted by computer crash on Sep-20-06 at 12:34 PM
In response to message #40
the computer I have tuelz on crashed. I have a backup on a network drive with all of the items in it. It seems to work on another machine. Can I use it on that machine while my main machine is being repaired?

#44, RE: updated tuelz rebrander
Posted by Kurt on Sep-20-06 at 12:46 PM
In response to message #43
>the computer I have tuelz on crashed. I have a backup on a
>network drive with all of the items in it. It seems to work
>on another machine. Can I use it on that machine while my
>main machine is being repaired?


Please email your receipt to me and I'll take care of it.

And a quick reminder: Please be on topic on these support threads, as this is more a general Tuelz question than a rebrander question. Thanks.


#45, RE: updated tuelz rebrander
Posted by kelvin brown on Oct-04-06 at 08:37 PM
In response to message #44
Hi Kurt,

I noticed this in the Tuelz rebrander sales page.
http://www.tuelz.com/rebrander.html

I think it is a holdover from when you branded pheeds with adsense.

"Rebrand WikiPedia Results - We have a special package that lets you add a search engine that searches 150,000+ high quality encyclopedia articles, and if your FatSearch sends folks to our web-based encyclopedia, we'll share the ad space with you."

By understanding is you no longer share ad space.

kelvin


#46, RE: updated tuelz rebrander
Posted by Kurt on Oct-04-06 at 08:51 PM
In response to message #45

>By understanding is you no longer share ad space.
>

Hi Kelvin,

You're correct, I no longer offer than service.

I have removed those references a few times, I must have two versions somewhere because the rebranding stuff seems to keep showing up.

Sorry for the hassle, I've removed the references to Wiki rebranding (I hope for good this time).



#47, RE: updated tuelz rebrander
Posted by kelvin brown on Oct-04-06 at 09:13 PM
In response to message #46
No hazzle to me.
Just though you might have missed it.


kelvin


#48, RE: clients upgrading
Posted by kelvin brown on Oct-18-06 at 09:04 AM
In response to message #47
I offed to do the research and brand a Tuelz for a prospect.

He then found the forum and Tuelz rebrander, and said he could buy the rebrander and make his own custom tuelz.

Question:

Would this person just need to buy the rebrander, or would they be required to buy one of the Tuelz packages before they could get the rebrander?

kelvin


#49, RE: clients upgrading
Posted by Kurt on Oct-18-06 at 09:14 AM
In response to message #48

>Would this person just need to buy the rebrander, or would
>they be required to buy one of the Tuelz packages before
>they could get the rebrander?
>

Kelvin,

They can buy the Rebrander directly. The Rebrander really wasn't intended to be offered as a "third party service" (although there's nothing wrong with that), but you are performing a service, so if one was to buy the Rebrander they would need to put in the effort themselves.