I am having trouble with setting up my archive folder.

I read in the readme that I probably won't be able to create this folder either in my cgi-bin or subfolders. Now when you say subfolders does this mean my subdomain folders.

This maybe my problem and I have tried every concievable way I can think of for the path.

My domain that Godfather is hosted on is ComputerBE.com

This is a subdomain of befree24.com, so resides in my root folder of computerbe.befree24.com

I have tried the following paths¬
../../html/archives/
../../public_html/archives/
../../public_html/computerbe/archives/
/public_html/archives/
/public_html/computerbe/archives/

And so on...

Is there anybody who is a genius with cpanel:)

Thanks in advance,

Andy

Try /home/username/public_html/archive as the path.

Nick Surran
AgentBlack Search Engine - He finds what you need

Your the MAN:)

Thanks buddy that was exactly right. Now I can get on with configuring it properly, boy is this a monster.

Today has been one hell of a day and I am all smiles:)

Have a good one,

Andy

Gil

Thats what I love so much about this forum:)

We all have our little bits of knowlegde that together make an awesome combination and in my opinion, a fool proof philosophy.

I know you have lots to share, after all you have been here from the start. So don't worry, I will for sure be picking your brains for that knowledge sometime in the future.

I want to incorporate all bombs on my sites in some way or another and that includes the stuff that you have created.

So have a great weekend Gil and speak to you soon:)

Andy

However, this is a free script that I install on every domain I have just so that I dont have the trouble figuring out the correct paths and other settings including php, etc.

I posted this elsewhere on this forum but I'll add it here again for anyone that wants to use it. BTW the script is called perldiver.

http://www.scriptsolutions.com/programs/free/perldiver

Gil

Now that is something you can help me with. I saw the other post when I was looking into Godfatherbomb and tried myself to get it running.

But I just couldn't and I know it would be a handy thing to have up there on my site:)

I am planning on tweaking my site for the rest of this week, and hopefully getting stuck into Godfatherbomb. After I have completed those two tasks I will then see about getting this working.

So if you wouldn't mind Gil I would love to pick your brains and get it working, I am warning you in advance:)

Have a great day,,
Andy

Hi, I think I read somewhere, that you only need to install one version of Godfather bomb, that is was not necessary to re-install it on different domains as it could be used to create lists for your other domains. Is this correct and if so how can you do this as all the archive.html pages, which are being generated on the godfather bomb site, are not adding to the other domain which is what I think I need at the moment.

I know that I can put the subscription form on the non GBbomb domain to sign up to a particular list via my GB bomb site however, I noticed that the path required for the archive folder has to be on the godfather bomb site - or is it possible to have the archive folder with the archive.html pages placed on another www.otherdomain.com instead. If not, how can I get the archive generated pages to build on the non GBbomb domain without installing GBbomb - or in this case do I have to install it again?

You expertise about, how to use one version of GBbomb to benefit your other sites without having to re-install it on more than one domain would be greatly appreciated.

thanks

Eleesha
Midas Group

The archiving will take place on one domain. Although, you could "move" them from time to time...

Basically, GBomb is installed and archiving on one domain. However, you can put a "subscribe" box on any domain you want, and let one GBomb admin everything.

Of course, you may also wnat GBomb installed on sperate domains, depending on what you want.

One install:
Easier to manage everything

Allows subscribers more lists to chose from in the user panel. This is a good way to increase readership, bu giving each more choices.

Multiple domains:
Archived pages are spread over multiple domains, probably giving better SE exposure.

Can seperate lists on different domains that maybe you dont' want every one to have access to...

Thanks for that info it makes sense. I just had a thought about archiving alternatives to fit in with what I need and thought I would run this one by you.

If you have more than one domain on the same server and zinebomb is installed on one of those domains (they all share the same admin and mysql data log in etc..) would it then be possible (in the Archive Directory in zinebomb) to put in the path to another archive folder on one of other domains (providing they are on the same server)? I think this may be possible. As a result, pages could be archived via zinebomb on a different domain for a different list, building up different archives for the different lists on different domains. Is this a correct assumption and a possibility based on this scenario?

Eleesha
Midas Group

>If you have more than one domain on the same server and
>zinebomb is installed on one of those domains (they all
>share the same admin and mysql data log in etc..) would it
>then be possible (in the Archive Directory in zinebomb) to
>put in the path to another archive folder on one of other
>domains (providing they are on the same server)? I think
>this may be possible. As a result, pages could be archived
>via zinebomb on a different domain for a different list,
>building up different archives for the different lists on
>different domains. Is this a correct assumption and a
>possibility based on this scenario?

Yes, it's quite possible to do it. You may encounter problems with permissions though. Don't let zinebomb create the archive directory. Create it by yourself and make it writable by all (0777).

Kirill

My list of links is too wide, & I want to reduce the font size. But using the font tags either side of the SSI doesn't make any difference.

- so how can I reduce the font size?

cheers,

Leigh (traffictart)
Perth, Western Australia
http://www.white-on.com/taste/cocktail-party-ideas.htm

Try entering the font tags in the link text file itself.

If this doesn't work, I'll get Kirill to tell us where the code is...

On the config. page for your mailing list, there is an item called "Index Template" under the Archive section. This is what I've used to format my link display, you could try putting your font tags here.

Nick Surran
AgentBlack Search Engine - He finds what you need

I'm a new bomber. Just got GodFatherBomb. I got it all hooked up and running and thought I was going for the touchdown. My problem is that my archive lines look like random numbers. Can you be changed to something meaningful?

And the big one...all my archive links return 404 errors. the html is being generated but it doesnt contain any data and the links, when clicked return 404 errors.

My newsletter is generating successfully both in html and text.

Please advise.

Thanks!

Each page is names using the server time and date, including seconds, so they are not random, and because of this I think they are meaningful. At this time, the name files can't be changed as far as using a time stamp, as a timestamp guarantees no two files are named the same thing.

<<<And the big one...all my archive links return 404 errors. the html is being generated but it doesnt contain any data and the links, when clicked return 404 errors.>>>

Most likely is the home URL in BlogBomb isn't set correctly.

Please check this BLOGBOMB file:
data/config.pl

...And make sure the
$FEEDSEARCH_SSI_URL =

points to your domain.

Regard the archive linking I do have the in my data/config.pl file:

$FEEDSEARCH_SSI_URL = "http://www.mydomain.net/cgi-bin/blogbomb";;

which is the path to my bbx2 install. Everything else seems to work perfectly. I checks file/directory settings also. Any ideas?

Thanks!

~T!

><<My problem is that my archive lines look like random
>numbers. Can you be changed to something meaningful?>>
>
>Each page is names using the server time and date, including
>seconds, so they are not random, and because of this I think
>they are meaningful. At this time, the name files can't be
>changed as far as using a time stamp, as a timestamp
>guarantees no two files are named the same thing.
>
>
><<<And the big one...all my archive links return 404 errors.
>the html is being generated but it doesnt contain any data
>and the links, when clicked return 404 errors.>>>
>
>Most likely is the home URL in BlogBomb isn't set correctly.
>
>Please check this BLOGBOMB file:
>data/config.pl
>
>...And make sure the
>$FEEDSEARCH_SSI_URL =
>
>points to your domain.

Thanks!

~T

I'm not sure what update you're speaking of...I sent you the most recent version of GBomb.

The problem with your links is most likely you have the wrong path entered for the archive directory path.

This needs to be your full server path.

Here's my situation:

I've indicated the full server path for my RSS feed in the GBomb Configuration Panel:

/home/myusername/public_html/mydirectory/cgi-bin/myblogbombdir/feedsearch_ssi.cgi

For the mail list archive directory path I have following relative from in the mail list configuration panel:

../../my_archive_directory

Is this correct? I know the RSS feed path is correct because I can generate both the text and html newsletter with the BlogBomb RSS feeds I'm testing.

Regarding the update...when I extracted the archive for GodFatherBomb I was the given the following files:

GBomb1.2_rc_FULL.zip
GBomb1.2_rc_update.zip

The update is a subset of files from the FULL. The diffence is that the the update files have the same date as their related duplicates in the FULL but the updates files are the most recent versions based on time. Only a few of the updates had the same date and time as their duplicates in the FULL. I was just curious if I need to overwrite the FULL version files with the update files.

Thanks for your assistance.

Regards,

~Thomas

Here my progress...I've since discovered that my archive pages are now showing content. Sometime around 19:13:01 (server time) yesterday, they started working. I was tinkering with the templates and had content being generated for the newsletter long before that that same content was showing up in the archived version. Don't know what triggered it to start working.

I've pin pointed my problem to the my archive index file, links-keyword.txt (I went with the readme default name for testing) int it is not linking properly to my archive html files. It pointed to them at the root of my domain (ie: www.my-domain.com/message-000000.html) when in should be www.my-domain.com/dir_path_to_archive_folder/message-000000.html. This tweat should bring me home.

What am I missing or doing wrong?

Thanks!

~Thomas

T,

Sorry that I had 6 hours sleep.

Like I said, you just have the wrong file path to the archive. This needs to be inserted into each mailing list.

You do this through each list's particular management page. It is here you need to insert the correct path.

Also, the reason your arcive page was empty was because GBomb didn't yet create/send an email at that time.

If an email is to be sent at 10:00 pm, then this is when GBomb creates the archive page(s).

To test, try the "Test" mode set to 2 minutes. Pleaes check your Admin to make sure Cron is also set to 2 minutes.

Also, disregard the update. It is for those with other versions of GBomb. You have the most up to date version already installed.

The later date is only because the upgrade was created after the Full version was created.

I hope I didn't come across as impatient. I know you're a quite the busy person. I just wanted you know that I was aware that I had 1 or 2 questions already in queue that hadn't been answer yet so I wasn't trying to throw a bunch of questions at you at one time.

okay...

I am editing the specific list in question. I am at the 'Edit List' page for the specific list.

For the 'Archive' section here is what I got in brief:

Enable Archive: YES
Index File: archive-index.txt
Archive Directory: ../../my_archive_dir/

Please let me know how to get my archive file to insert the path to the archive html files.

If I open the archive-index.txt file for edit, the links look like this:

<a href="message-20040522164202.html">NewsLetterTitle</a> - 05-22-2004<br>
...

When I hover over the link on my website home page the link as indicated by the IE status bar says:

http://www.mydomain.com/message-20040522164202.html

This of course gives me a 404 error because the file is not in root directory of my domain. editing the link in the browser address bar with the directory path of course will bring up the page correctly. so it seems I can't get the archive index file to insert the full path to the archive directory. The archive index file is in the same archive directory with the archive files. I tried both 'Existing File' and 'New File" options and that didn't correct it.

I figured out why my archive files originally had no content. It was because I had not figured out that I needed to supply the template variables for the archive section as I did for the text and html sections of that specific mail list template. D'oh! It just took me about 40 emails while testing at 2 min intervals. Sorry I didn't remember that in my original question. It certainly didn't just magically start working.

Anyhow, I'm figuring out that so far I been experiencing ID.10T errors ...I'm in the home stretch though ...so close to getting it fully functional...

Thanks again for your time and your product...

~Thomas
>T,
>
>Sorry that I had 6 hours sleep.
>
>Like I said, you just have the wrong file path to the
>archive. This needs to be inserted into each mailing list.
>
>You do this through each list's particular management page.
>It is here you need to insert the correct path.
>
>Also, the reason your arcive page was empty was because
>GBomb didn't yet create/send an email at that time.
>
>If an email is to be sent at 10:00 pm, then this is when
>GBomb creates the archive page(s).
>
>To test, try the "Test" mode set to 2 minutes. Pleaes check
>your Admin to make sure Cron is also set to 2 minutes.

It is very hard for me to give you your specific file paths. It is similar to asking me where you put your car keys.

However, the problem is your archive file path and your ssi tags don't "jive". One or the other is incorrect.

What SSI tag you use is depnedant on where the page is you use it in, and where the archives are stroed.

What folder are your archived pages in?

I suggest finding your archive directory and adding SSI tags to those pages first. Once you get that tag working, then insert it in pages in other directories, modifying the SSI's file path as needed.

Also, from your example it appears you may be storing archive pages in your cgi-bin (sub directory). Some servers won't server pages from the cgi-bin.

Again, mess with GBomb until you get it creating archive pages in your root/home directory for starters. This is the easiet way to learn.

I checked and my directory wasn't located in my cgi-bin. I started over just to get a clean point of reference. I deleted my former archive directory and all files in it.

The path I enter for 'Archive Directory' must be relative to the directory that GBomb is installed in. I tested various paths and noted where it created the directories. I removed them all to start clean again.

I have GBomb installed in mydomain/cgi-bin/gbomb <--actual directory name

I want my archived files to be in a sub dir called /archives that is located at the root of my domain. This puts it above the gbomb directory (relatively speaking) so I would need to enter the following value for 'Archive Directory" when editing my specific mail list:

../../archives

This creates a directory at mydomainroot/archives

(I created a archive index file called archive-index.txt that resides in the /archives directory)

Now, in order for me to get my home page to list (insert) the archived html files listing from this directory using SSI, my SSI tag has to be:

<!--#include virtual="/archives/archive-index.txt" -->

With this information above, I get no complaints about the configuration from the Edit Mail list panel. All files are created in the right locations and the listing is inserted into my homepage successfully.

I've played with variations of the Archive Directory path and my SSI tag. Nothing but the configuration I've outlined above works.

I am at a loss as to why the link inserted on my homepage won't properly reference the /archives folder when inserted into the page via SSI. I've done everthing I can think of:

-Adjusted directory location in Mail List Edit
-Used relative and full server path in Mail List Edit
-Adjusted ssi tag
-Changed index file/name
-Started over

...the missing piece is getting that link to reference the path to the archive folder.

The archive-index.txt still references all archived html local as local in the same directory:

<a href="message-20040522164202.html">NewsLetterTitle</a> - 05-22-2004<br>

I guess that should be correct and it's the job of the SSI tag to make proper reference when the path to the archive-index.txt is inserted. Yes?

Sorry if this is a bit long winded. I'm tried playing with it (hours) and I'm a bit irked because I feel like it probably something really simple keeping me from getting this last issue resolved.

Here is what did work:

If I use ../../ for the Archive Directory path, this points my archived html files to my domains root directory. Remember is relative to the location of the GBomb install directory.

If I then change the SSI tag to:

<!--#include file="archive-index.txt" -->

It works perfectly. The inserted page links work. They work only with this configuration.

But this is because I'm essentially putting the pages in the location that he archive link is looking for them.

It seems reasonable that the url being written to the archive-index.txt file should not reference any path since GBomb requires and places it in same directory and location you indicate for your archive directory. Basically no matter where you put your directory, the index.txt file is always going to reference the archived html as being in the same directory as itself.

It would also seem that my SSI reference would be the problem. However, any modification to the SSI other than what I indicated above breaks the functionality and the archive-index.txt file won't be insert into my homepage. I'm basically left with either having the pages created in the root for my domain, if I want the link list to work while the only other option is not being able to reference the archives via Linking.

The leaves with the following question:

How do I alter my index.txt file and/or page links written to it to point to the right path no matter where I put my archive directory?

I would prefer not to have all the archived html files growing in my root domain directory with my main files. I figure there must be a simple way to make this happen and that I'm just not keen enough to see it at this point. Maybe I've been working this too long and need a break I dunno.

Don't mean to tak more time with this then has already been.

Thanks!

~Thomas

This isn't a GBomb problem at this point. It is an SSI/server path problem, so don't make any adjustment to GBomb, it will only complicate things.

I belive your problem is, you likely need to use different paths in the SSI tag.

If the url to the archive is www.domain.com/archives

And the page is in this /archives directory, the pages need this tag:
blenderbomb tag
<!--#include virtual="archive-links.txt"-->

If the pages are in your ROOT directory, you need a tag like:
blenderbomb tag
<!--#include virtual="/archive/archive-links.txt"-->

You can NOT use the same path in SSI tags on pages in different directories, because (by definition) that path changes.

Hmmmm....it seems that I'm missing something here that I might have regarding configuring GBomb.

You are referencing BlenderBomb. I don't know what blendbomb is.

You are also talking about pages (plural). Am I supposed to be adding a SSI tag to other pages (archive?) other then the webpage I want my archive list to show on?

Because to day that is the only thing I've been doing. Adding the SSI to my home page pointing to the archive-index.txt file to insert the archive listings on my home page. Which of course is my Linking issue.

Is that what I'm missing here? It seems you are referencing what I need to do on the pages in my /archives directory. If so, how to I do that. Is there a template that needs to be modified or something?

Thanks!

~T

>T,
>
>This isn't a GBomb problem at this point. It is an
>SSI/server path problem, so don't make any adjustment to
>GBomb, it will only complicate things.
>
>I belive your problem is, you likely need to use different
>paths in the SSI tag.
>
>If the url to the archive is www.domain.com/archives
>
>And the page is in this /archives directory, the pages need
>this tag:
>blenderbomb tag
><!--#include virtual="archive-links.txt"-->
>
>If the pages are in your ROOT directory, you need a tag
>like:
>blenderbomb tag
><!--#include virtual="/archive/archive-links.txt"-->
>
>You can NOT use the same path in SSI tags on pages in
>different directories, because (by definition) that path
>changes.

It looks like the issue is how the links are being built in the archive-links.txt file. I ran into this same issue. Give this a try.

In your Gbomb admin, go to your list and click edit. Under the right-hand column in the Archive section, there is a field titled "Index Template." By default, this says

<a href="{message_url}">{title}</a> - {date}<br>

Change this to

<a href="http://domain.tld/DIRECTORY/{message_url}";>{title}</a> - {date}<br>

Don't forget to take out the ; that the forum added.

Nick Surran
AgentBlack Search Engine - He finds what you need

Thanks Kurt for the support and thank you Nick for the winning the tip!

Now that it's working perfectly, is there a way to adjust up or down the number of archive file links shown on the page. It doesn't appear to just run a long list indefinitely but I wanted to know if there was a set number of links and whether it there is an option to adjustion how long you want the the list to be.

Thank you gentlemen!

~Thomas

>T and Kurt,
>
>It looks like the issue is how the links are being built in
>the archive-links.txt file. I ran into this same issue.
>Give this a try.
>
>In your Gbomb admin, go to your list and click edit. Under
>the right-hand column in the Archive section, there is a
>field titled "Index Template." By default, this says
>
><a href="{message_url}">{title}</a> - {date}<br>
>
>Change this to
>
><a
>href="http://domain.tld/DIRECTORY/{message_url}";>{title}</a>
>- {date}<br>
>
>Don't forget to take out the ; that the forum added.

Can someone tell how you limit the number of archive links shown on a page. My archive link listing is growing and growing stretching out my page. I would seam reasonable to limit the number of visible links to the archive pages to site layout nice and neat.

Thanks!

~Thomas

I assume you are including the archive links on your page by using an SSI call to include the contents of the archive text file created by G-bomb. If this is the case, you need to periodically go into the text file and remove some of the links it contains.

Or, cut/paste them into a different file to include elsewhere on your site so you still link to those pages somewhere.

Nick Surran
AgentBlack Search Engine - He finds what you need

I'm sure some of your more advanced bombers are scripting a solution for this. Just curious?

Thanks!

>Thomas,
>
>I assume you are including the archive links on your page by
>using an SSI call to include the contents of the archive
>text file created by G-bomb. If this is the case, you need
>to periodically go into the text file and remove some of the
>links it contains.
>
>Or, cut/paste them into a different file to include
>elsewhere on your site so you still link to those pages
>somewhere.

I've thought about adding it...I really think some things need supervision and you should check and your sites every 60 days or so, which is why it's been left out.

For simplicity, I'll probably add a random element to the linking structure. An multiple-page/multiple level link structure can become hard to manage using automation alone.

Still, they best way is to put a human touch on it...

I installed GF. No red, all seems to have worked properly.

The problem I see now is the there is no content being written to that archives. The message files are blank.

http://blacknewschannel.com/archives/

kelvin

>I installed GF. No red, all seems to have worked properly.
>
>The problem I see now is the there is no content being
>written to that archives. The message files are blank.
>
>http://blacknewschannel.com/archives/

Well they are not quite blank. Have you added any {rss:X,Y} tags to the templates? They are replaced with the content of the corresponding rss feed.

Try to add {rss:1,1=3} to the template.
It means to show the first 3 links from the first feed.

Kirill