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"Keyword - Niche Research"
 
Let's use this thread to discuss keyword and niche research.

Dave Kelly is one of the few SEOers I really respect. Not only do he and I have very similar thoughts about how to SEO, I also know he gets results.

A few years ago (before Adsense), SearchFeed was the best PPC to generate income from. I had 100's of sub affiliates and SearchFeed gave me some access to their results.

Dave Kelly was far and away the best sub-affiliate I had, in terms of generating income. By far.

Dave gave me permission to give you guys this keyword reserch ebook that he wrote:
www.dombom.com/iframes/Dave_Kelly_KWRS.zip

Again, his strategies are very similar to my own, which is why I asked him if I could give this to you guys...

Here's where he and I agree and are a little different that the other SEO "experts"...We don't say to focus on 1 or 2 keywords. Instead, we want to mix keywords so that we can create multiple combos that folks will be searching for. Every web page has the potential to get traffic for a variety of phrases.

This is how you get TRAFFIC.


This ebook is a step by step guide. The only change I'd make is that when Dave shows you how to check the competition, instead of using his method, pop all your keywords into the INZ Tuel. Inz is more accurate and much faster.

Other than that, look at his basic strategy...It's a quick read and gives exact details.


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1. "RE: Keyword - Niche Research"
 
Here's a very interesting text file I created almost 6 years ago, to the day, and posted for Bombers. There's about 6100 search phrases on the text file.

This is a list of RAW (may be some adult language) keywords compiled by the late, great program WordMarket.

WordMarket no longer works, but back in the day it could scrape various search engines and record actual search queries to a text file.

Since this list is 6 years old, it isn't good for finding "hot" keywords.

The real value of this list it to show you how people REALLY search. It shows you how often they use quote marks, signs, etc.

But more importantly, look at how many of the search terms are "one of a kind". Where are all the "popular" keywords?

A very important concept in getting TRAFFIC (not rankings) is to understand the a high percentage of search queries (40-60%) are not "exact" searches. This means the engines struggle to return results.

And the real key to getting SE traffic is to have as many keyword combos on your pages as possible. Sure, you want to focus on your "best" keywords, but you also need to work in as many secondary and trinary (is that a word?) keywords into your pages as possible.

These "other" keywords will work with your main keywords to create tons of combos. This is the Bomber method and I've used this method for over 12 years to generate TRAFFIC (not rankings). After 12 years of continued success, it's safe to say this method works and will work.

Don't believe me? Check out how people REALLY search. Spend 10-15 minutes looking for trends and habits...But don't worry about "hot" keywords, as this list is 6 years old:
http://www.dombom.com/dcforum/User_files/3e97378a6c121a69.txt


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2. "RE: Keyword - Niche Research"
 
LAST EDITED ON Jan-22-10 AT 10:15 AM (PST)
 

Bomber Special!

Never mind.


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3. "RE: Keyword - Niche Research"
 
LSI is a hot topic and you're bound to see some stuff for sale that probably isn't necessary to buy.

Here's three different FREE LSI resources that in combination will greatly benefit your LSI resources and save you some money.

1. LSI Tuel:
You just go to www.tuelz.com and download the free versions of Tuelz.

I haven't set up individual downloads yet, so you'll need to download the entire package of free tuelz.

If you already own Tuelz, just be sure you do NOT over-write your full power tuelz with any of the free ones.

For those that already own Tuelz, just copy/paste LSI into your "main" Tuelz folder, and EXIT and restart Tuelz.

2. For more LSI research, you can check out:
http://www.quintura.com/
(which is included in the TuelBar)

3. And, I also like to use Google Sets for more LSI suggestions:
http://labs.google.com/sets

The LSI Tuel, Quintura and Google Sets are all FREE and together are comprehensive resources for all your LSI research.

LSI goes right along with the first post in this thread, and that is mixing and matching related keywords.

The last thing you want to do is create a site where all your keywords are variations of the same root:
dog collars
dog food
dog training


It's much, much, much better to do a little more LSI/related keyword research and come up with keyword phrases that don't all have the same "root":
dog collars
pet food
animal training
canine obedience

Not only is this is much more natural, it gives you a wider range of keyword combos.



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4. "RE: Keyword - Niche Research"
 
   Hey Kurt,

Just wanted to say thanks for the great deal on "Keyword Research Genius".

All The Best,


Tony


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5. "RE: Keyword - Niche Research"
 
>Hey Kurt,
>
>Just wanted to say thanks for the great deal on "Keyword
>Research Genius".
>
>All The Best,

Hey Tony...

Thanks to you, too.

If you or anyone else has some tips to share, we'd all really appreciate it.

One thing to note: The program will perform a number of queries to various sources, included Google. Google has a limit of about 1000 queries per day. If you go over this ammount, there's a good chance Google will temporarily ban your IP address.

This "should" only last for about a day. Either be careful, use a dial up or proxy.

The good news is that it is your home IP and not that of your sites.

Take it easy and do a little research a day, over time, instead of all at one time.



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7. "RE: Keyword - Niche Research"
 
   It looks like I'm really in the right place at the right time. I'm a person who really knows very little about keyword research and needs to learn.

I just read Dave Kelly's book and found it very helpful, even for a keyword research newbie.

I've had an opportunity to install and take a quick look at Keyword Research Genius. This is the first keyword software that I've purchased and it sure is packed with a lot of features. I've done a few basic things with it and look forward to exploring the Keyword Harvester functions soon.

The combination of that software, the Tuelz, and the info and people on this forum should certainly jumpstart my learning.

Tony


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10. "RE: Keyword - Niche Research"
 
  
The last thing you want to do is create a site where all
>your keywords are variations of the same root:
>dog collars
>dog food
>dog training
>
>
>It's much, much, much better to do a little more LSI/related
>keyword research and come up with keyword phrases that don't
>all have the same "root":
>dog collars
>pet food
>animal training
>canine obedience
>
>Not only is this is much more natural, it gives you a wider
>range of keyword combos.
>


Hi Kurt,
I want to do it the way you are telling us to, but I am a little confused.

See, I am making a site on self help and personal development .I am making a silo structured site,where the keywords dont have the same root.
I have different silos created such as hypnosis,self esteem , depression,etc.
The problem I am facing is that when I do link building for this site,I dont know which anchor text should I use.
Should I use self help or personal development or hypnosis, or self esteem.

The site is structured like:

self help and personal development
|
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| | | | |
self esteem hypnosis anxiety panic meditation
|
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| |
self hypnosis hypnotize someone

This is how I have structured my site.

So, could you advise me on the anchor text that I should use for the main domain. and should I do link building for each of these folders (or silos) such as self esteem, hypnosis, meditation.

I am just a little confused with this. How will I rank well, for umm, self esteem If I just do link building for the main domain with self help as anchor text.

Any suggestions or advice are welcome. And yes, thanks for the ebook by Dave. Although, I read it I am still confused about this part.

bye,
faraz


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11. "RE: Keyword - Niche Research"
 
Hi Faraz,

This thread is about keyword research and not really about how to structure links for your pages.

>>So, could you advise me on the anchor text that I should use for the main domain. and should I do link building for each of these folders (or silos) such as self esteem, hypnosis, meditation.

I am just a little confused with this. How will I rank well, for umm, self esteem If I just do link building for the main domain with
>>self help as anchor text.

You use the best keywords based on your research to create anchor links, just as you use them to create content.

No where has it been said that just do link building for your main domain. You want links to all your pages. 30-40% should be to the home page, the rest should be "deep links" to interrior pages of your domain.

If you have a page about "self esteem", then you should research the keyword and see which variations are the "best", then use one version on your own site for all links to that page. Then you should use all "good" variations to get deep links from other sites/hubs/lenses.



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12. "RE: Keyword - Niche Research"
 
   >Hi Faraz,
>
>This thread is about keyword research and not really about
>how to structure links for your pages.

Well, yes I know. I was just showing how my pages were structured thinking that maybe it would help you to answer my question.
>

>
>You use the best keywords based on your research to create
>anchor links, just as you use them to create content.
>
>No where has it been said that just do link building for
>your main domain. You want links to all your pages. 30-40%
>should be to the home page, the rest should be "deep links"
>to interrior pages of your domain.
>
>If you have a page about "self esteem", then you should
>research the keyword and see which variations are the
>"best", then use one version on your own site for all links
>to that page. Then you should use all "good" variations to
>get deep links from other sites/hubs/lenses.

I guess my main question is : should I use the terms self esteem or hypnosis, etc as anchor text to homepage too?

One more thing. I asked a question about my subscription in the subscription thread, kindly take a look and answer it.

Thanks.
bye,
faraz


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13. "RE: Keyword - Niche Research"
 
LAST EDITED ON Apr-14-08 AT 02:56 AM (PST)
 
>I guess my main question is : should I use the terms self
>esteem or hypnosis, etc as anchor text to homepage too?

What does your research tell you? Use the best, relevant keywords, just like any other page. One one hand you want them all related, on the other every link you get shouldn't use the same anchor text, as that's not natural.

Use 8-10 keywords and don't forget about LSI.


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14. "RE: Keyword - Niche Research"
 
   Kurt,

I have just been using Keyword Research Genuis today and I have one word for it...WOW!

Beats SEO Elite hands down.

Tom


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15. "RE: Keyword - Niche Research"
 
   Hi Tom

Do you mean SEO Elite or Keyword Elite?

Looking at the product description, it doesn't seem to have much that KE doesn't and, as a KE fan, I'd need some good reasons to switch.

Anything in particular that enthuses you, I'd be interested to hear.

TIA

Kind regards

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16. "RE: Keyword - Niche Research"
 
   Oops!

I meant keyword elite...

Tom


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17. "RE: Keyword - Niche Research"
 
   >Hi Tom
>
>Do you mean SEO Elite or Keyword Elite?
>
>Looking at the product description, it doesn't seem to have
>much that KE doesn't and, as a KE fan, I'd need some good
>reasons to switch.
>
>Anything in particular that enthuses you, I'd be interested
>to hear.
>
>TIA
>
>Kind regards
>
>Ian

The Price. Why pay for something when you can get the it cheaper?
compare the two and you'll see what I mean.

Tom


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18. "RE: Keyword - Niche Research"
 
   Kurt, I use MicroNichefinder, is Keyword Research Genius any better, in your opinion?


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19. "RE: Keyword - Niche Research"
 
>Kurt, I use MicroNichefinder, is Keyword Research Genius any
>better, in your opinion?

Hi Dan,

I've never used MIcroNicheFinder.

I suggest if you have a keyword tool you like, that you stick with it. Mixing and comparing data from different sources can cause faulty data.


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20. "RE: Keyword - Niche Research"
 
   OK< thanks Kurt, it semes pretty good, gives # cometing sites, # of links, allanchor text and of ocurse search volume


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21. "RE: Keyword - Niche Research"
 
   Kurt,

I bought Keyword Research Genius as a WSO before you offered it to the Bombers. My copy isn't working and when I try to open it says that my trial has expired.

I've emailed them and tried several other ways to find them but it looks like they may have went out of business.

Do you know how to contact the owner so I can get my copy working? Or any other ideas?

Thanks,

Mike


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22. "RE: Keyword - Niche Research"
 
>Kurt,
>
>I bought Keyword Research Genius as a WSO before you offered
>it to the Bombers. My copy isn't working and when I try to
>open it says that my trial has expired.
>
>I've emailed them and tried several other ways to find them
>but it looks like they may have went out of business.
>
>Do you know how to contact the owner so I can get my copy
>working? Or any other ideas?


Hi Mike,

Sorry about the delay...Having a blizzard here in Colorado and it's knocked out the electricity, all day it's been on and off.

I can't find any contact info from them, their domain name seems to be "down" www.revolutionarysoftware.com and I haven't been able to locate my email receipt.

I'm trying to run my copy, but it's seems to stall out while doing basic research. To be honest, just about every piece of software I've bought rights to hasn't lasted very long.

If I can find out anything, I'll post here. Sorry I couldn't have been any help.


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23. "RE: Keyword - Niche Research"
 
Hi Mike,

I did find my receipt, but he uses the same domain name for email that's down.

My only suggestion at this time is to post at the Warriors if anyone knows what happened.


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24. "RE: Keyword - Niche Research"
 
   LAST EDITED ON Apr-18-09 AT 05:55 PM (PST)
 
Thanks anyway. He hasn't been there since the sale of the software.

BTW...I have my receipt info as well. No help.


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25. "RE: Keyword - Niche Research"
 
   glad I am not the only one who collected a s..load of worthless tools after they get abondened by the owner creator...had the same problem 4 weeks ago - my tool stopped working and the owner didnt even bother to reply to my emails (even though he is still posting on the wb)

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26. "RE: Keyword - Niche Research"
 
>glad I am not the only one who collected a s..load of
>worthless tools after they get abondened by the owner
>creator...had the same problem 4 weeks ago - my tool stopped
>working and the owner didnt even bother to reply to my
>emails (even though he is still posting on the wb)


The problem is with softwre creators that make stuff that contacts a lot of 3rd party resources. Over time, these start to break and the software becomes useless.

Another is, the don't sell enough to keep interest, which is why I'd rather pay a small fee for updates than have "free updates for life", when the program has a life expectancy of a month or two.

However, that's no excuse and I've spent a lot of money on resale rights for software that doesn't last. I apologize to members here.


Karsten...What's "WB"?


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27. "RE: Keyword - Niche Research"
 
   Have you tried Market Samurai? I am using the trial edition but just found out the the Keyword research is free and always will be. This program is awesome.

It took me a little while to get use to as all the instructions are video. and with my lack of hearing it's oh well

So I put in a support ticket to find out if they have a transcript and I am glad I asked. Here is a copy of their reply:

Hi Thomas,


Thanks for your email.


We don't have a pdf manual, however every 30 Day Challenge training video, including the Market Samurai training videos have pdf transcripts with images. I have highlighted the links to the pdf transcripts in the attached screenshot.
http://www.thirtydaychallenge.com/training/


I hope this helps.


Regards
Miriam
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Miriam Parkinson
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Noble Samurai: Creators of Market Samurai - http://www.NobleSamurai.com

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Tom


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28. "RE: Keyword - Niche Research"
 
   @TOM
I have a black/white paper (pdf) on doing keyword research with MS
pm me if you want it - its free if you sign up somewhere but I forgot where to sign up for it but their approach makes perfectly sense to me!

@Kurt
wb=warriorb.

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